Sunday, September 20, 2009
Group Presentation for Discussion Group: Tues. 4-4:50pm
Blog Assignment #3
In Lorde's article, she discusses the idea of the "mythical norm:" "white, thin, male, young, heterosexual, Christian, and financially secure." As a female Jew, I do not completely fulfill this mythical norm. I have never seen my religion as a hindrance, but as a feminist, I have fought for my gender rights. Professor Messner spoke in class about how people will focus on the characteristics of the mythical norm to which they belong and ignore the ones they do. Though I do not take for granted the benefits of the aspects of the mythical norm that I fit into, I do not embrace nor appreciate them as much as I do. Many people suffer hardships far worse than me due to their race, gender, weight, etc. In modern day America, I am well-off as a woman compared to a century ago, let alone thirty years ago. Though I still believe that women have much more to accomplish, this article and Professor Messner's lecture have made me analyze the way I view the world.
Bettie's "How Working-Class Chicas Get Working Class Lives" was extremely interesting. I went to North Hollywood High School in the San Fernando Valley. Though nowhere close to an inner-city school, I still witnessed situations very similar to the ones that Bettie describes. I belonged to the Highly Gifted Magnet program, where we took extremely rigorous courses. Many of my friends outside of the program, however, took classes in which their teachers did not care about them and simply believed that they would never get anywhere in life. A vast majority of the white and Asian students belonged to my program, whereas a vast majority of the black and Hispanic students did not. Similar to the vocational business school, recruiters from the military were constantly on campus. Though I admire and respect the military and those who are in the service, many of the recruiters would entice students to sign up without giving them all of the details. On numerous occasions, I discussed these situations within my school with my AP Spanish teacher, an amazing teacher who taught students who did not belong to my program. As one of the few teachers who actually cared about her students and pushed them to go college and start a career, she was able to explain to me the difference between her teaching method and that of other teachers. Many people are simply there to get their salary; however, especially when the "working-class lives" mentality is still so prevalent, students need their teachers to be willing to go above and beyond for them.
To answer Professor Messner's question, "situated knowledge" is both an advantage and an impediment. Knowledge gained through experience is extremely helpful in situations where a subjective viewpoint is necessary. People relate better to others who have had similar experiences to their own; thus, when networking and establishing relationships, situated knowledge can be very helpful and opens the world. However, when connecting with people who have had different experiences, situated knowledge can be a hindrance. It can create preconceived notions that color one's perceptions. For example, with Sonia Sotomayor, her situated knowledge helps her bring a different perspective to the Supreme Court, helping her represent the underrepresented. However, because she has this knowledge based on her own personal experiences, it may be hard for her to be completely unbiased and open-minded. She has not lived the life of an upper-middle-class white male and thus cannot present his viewpoint based on experience. Her decisions are bound to be somewhat based on her own experiences, though this does not mean she is unable to see the world clearly. Depending on how one uses their situated knowledge affects whether or not it is considered an impediment.
Assignment #3
The article “Global Woman” by Barbara Ehrenreich and Arlie Russell Hochschild stood out to me because it describes what is happening back in my hometown Jakarta, Indonesia. Poor woman from villages go to the capital city to find job opportunities mostly as maids or sex workers, making Jakarta one of the most populated cities in the world. Josephine’s experiences in the article is almost the same with what my maid experiences. Iisadiah, my maid, has 2 sons, whom was left under her mother’s supervision. She can only be able to meet her family once a year or two years and her sons do poorly in school. This is what the article explain as the female underside of globalization; “women have succeeded in tough “male-world” careers only by turning over the care of their children, elderly parents, and homes.” The causes of women’s migration are the “care deficit” in richer regions and poverty in poorer regions that pushes them to migrate. Near the end, the article also state that “women in first world countries depend on migrants from poorer regions to provide child care, homemaking, and sexual services.” One of the reason why I think Indonesia is a nice place to live is because everything is so easy and u have maids and drivers to help u accomplish your daily works and activities. I’ve been careless about what I’ve done all these years, living with all these advantages without knowing about the background, what is happening in and the disadvantages of these people’s lives. This article opens my eyes to understand what was happening and compels me to think how can I help improve their lives. The article state that the solution is that we “need to see them as full human beings. They are strivers as well as victims, wives and mothers as well as workers.”
The article “ Age, Race, Class, and Sex” by Audre Lorde, taught me a lot about women’s conditions in the world today. The article made me realize that the issue of discrimination do not only cover the issue about race and the dominance of men over women, but also the issue of race of within women. I like the part where it states that “Certainly there are very real differences between us of race, age, and sex. But it is not those differences between us that are separating us. It is rather our refusal to those differences, and to examine the distortions which result from our misnaming them and their effects upon human behavior and expectation.”(246) I always thought that the main cause of discrimination is natural, like race, age, and sex. People are born into a particular group of people and they are subjected with discrimination. However, this article explain that the main reason is because of human deviance, where we are reluctant to recognize those differences and to deal with it effectively. Therefore, it provides a new concept to my perspective about discrimination and that we can actually alleviate discrimination among women, by simply acknowledging the differences that exist between us and try to think of ways in which we can deal with it effectively. Moreover, I also agree with the existence of “mythical norm” in our society, which is defined as white, thin, male, young, heterosexual, Christian, and financially secured. The existence of this mythical norm is highly reinforced through the media.
Julie Bettie’s article “How Working-Class Chicas Get Working Class Lives” can be related to the “Poser!” video from my group’s presentation. In the article, Bettie stated that there is “a symbolic economy of style on which class and racial/ethnic relations were played out” “Hairstyles, clothes, shoes, lipstick colors, and nail polish, are key markers in the symbolic economy that are employed to express membership to a particular group”. For example, las chicas, prefer darker colors for lipsticks and nails and they tend to show more skin and wear tighter clothes. On the other hand, white people wear clear and pastel colored lip gloss, French manicured and natural colored nails, and they wear more conservative clothes. In the video, the race is also portrayed through their styles and clothes. The white people wear simple, proper, and tight clothes. The black people wear colorful, vibrant, and baggy clothes. The asians wear a mix of both styles.
Lastly, I strongly agree with Professor Messner that situated knowledge is an impediment to seeing the world clearly. As already explained in class, everyone’s knowledge is filtered through their experiences and their experiences are grounded in their social location (situated knowledge). Our situated knowledge made us look at the world through a biased lens according our own race, age, and sex. Thus, understandings of the world are necessarily subjective.
Blog #3-Marisa Fentis
Assignment 3
The article Global Women by Barbara Ehrenreich and Arlie Russell Hochschild really made an impression on me because it opened my eyes to “globalization.” Since many First World female workers move up and succeed in tough “male world” careers, many of those women have to depend on women from the Third World to care for their children, elderly parents, and homes. So, while many people have the illusion that affluent career women “do it all,” this is untrue because it is the domestic workers and nannies that are the ones who clean the house, feed and bathe the children, and cook—and then fade away from sight as if they never existed. This idea of “globalization” also makes me think about Carmen’s Cosmo advertisement of the house-wife fitting into her itty-bitty jeans and seemingly being able to “do it all.” After reading the Global Women article, it made me wonder about what’s really going on in the magazine advertisement: Is the woman really “doing it all?” Or does she depend on a domestic worker from the Third World to do all of her work for her while she just pretends to “do it all?”
Another article that I found to be interesting is titled, Age, Sex, Class, and Sex: Women Redefining Difference by Audre Lorde. Lorde—who is a “forty-nine-year-old Black lesbian feminist mother of two”(245)—discusses the problem of systematized oppression, where anyone who is not the “mythical norm”—as Professor Messner describes it—is dehumanized and thus, considered as an inferior in our society. Lorde emphasizes the fact that “old patterns, no matter how cleverly rearranged to imitate progress, still condemn us to cosmetically altered repetitions of the same old exchanges, the same old guilt, hatred, recrimination, lamentation, and suspicion” (249). Society tends to misname, harass, and sometimes ignore those who are “inferior.” A great example of this is the presentations that were presented in class. Apart from the Boyz N The Hood portion, everyone’s presentations concentrated around the White culture—excluding the various other numerous cultures and races.
In response to Professor Messner’s question…I believe that on a personal/individual level, “situated knowledge” is an impediment to seeing the world clearly. People who see the world through only their own “situated knowledge” are more likely to be narrow minded because their “situated knowledge” is only grounded in their own gender, race, and class. Thus, at a personal/individual level, “situated knowledge” only hinders one’s ability to see the world clearly. However, if one were to consider the “situated knowledge” of others from a different gender, race, class, and sexual orientation, their horizons would be broadened drastically.
Assignment #3
This article relates to the image of the ice cream advertisement featuring Obama in that the difference in race is emphasized. It seems that the advertisement is only taking into account this significant difference and using this difference to market their product.
Bettie's article talks about the classification of a certain group of people and how they have different attitudes and behaviors toward certain things (that may have been molded during their childhood). Furthermore, she calls into question the differences in stylistic preferences, such as make-up and apparel, and also the way they attend class and how they feel about pregnancies among the different groups at school. "Las chicas", who are the girls that do not seem to care for school and show little interest in the official school curriculum, tend to show more skin while wearing their clothes and prefer darker shades of make-up and nail polish while "the preps", who are the girls who have high aspirations for college, tend to wear more conservative style clothes and prefer lighter shades of make-up and nail polish that seem almost natural. One of the girls from "las chicas" even talks about how the different shades of colors have nothing to do with skin color, but they are used to identify with a particular group, as with the apparel they wear. Another thing that stood out was the attitude toward pregnancies. "Las chicas" seemed to be more natural around this topic of discussion, such that it seemed to be a normal thing to happen, not at all surprising to them. The differences of different groups are so distinct that they are usually easy to pinpoint.
This article somewhat relates to the video "Poser!" that was shown in class because the video showed three different races, White, Black, and Asian. Even though their emphasis was on the "peace sign" and other photographic poses used by the different races, one can also see the difference in the apparel that they wear. Though the apparel that each race (group) wears are not as distinct as "las chicas" and "the preps" in the article, there are some subtle differences between the groups. Music, for example, is another difference that we seem to characterize as music in accordance to the different races.
In response to Messner's question in class, I believe that situated knowledge is an impediment because since people may never get to experience the feeling of living in rural areas, or basically experiencing the life in different locations, people cannot fully understand all the worries and dangers of living in such places. Furthermore, situated knowledge depends on the age, location, and environment one lives in to name a few. Younger people do not know as much as older people do and being wiser and more knowledgeable about history and environment means more or less education. I mentioned how the difference in location earlier. The environment also plays a part of situated knowledge because the family values and peer pressures that are instilled into a person at a young age have a greater chance of staying with them for a majority of their life, possibly until they choose to make their own decisions about what they want to believe.
Blog Assignment #3
In "Theorizing", the idea that all women are similar at an essential level is challenged. It is suggested that the many differences at the individual level cloud each person's view and create differing experiences even for people within the same social and racial groups. Class, race, gender, and orientation are suggested as the primary factors that create these different perspectives. In place of the old form of feminism that centered around the circumstances and life experiences of primarily middle-class white women, the article proposes the idea of a multiracial feminism. Multiracial feminism acknowledges the many differences in circumstance and class that affect our experiences and suggests that we cannot attempt to view the differences at an individual level, but only as a whole; Viewing all the differences and their interaction together as a unit, as well as how this positions individuals within the societal power structure.
In the Audre Lorde article, a very similar point is made- that a mythical norm exists (white, male, middle class, educated, heterosexual etc.) in which the majority of power is situated within our society. She also brings up the point that the majority of past and contemporary feminist study has ignored or treated improperly the many differences that can exist between women (and men) as individuals- something that multiracial feminist study seems to be attempting to correct.
Also, as to whether or not situated knowledge impedes our ability to see the world clearly, I believe it does so at an individual level, but at a higher level actually broadens our understanding. For example, a man may not be able to fully understand the way a woman sees the world and has experienced a skewed, or situated, view of the world. A woman would also see the world through a different lens. However, if both of these people were to come together and share their experiences with one another, they'd likely end up with a broader view of the world than if they all had the same experiences. I believe this would also generally apply to people with differing races, classes, and sexual orientations.


